Over here, Red Tory makes the following statement:
With the help of a disgruntled party member, an investigative journalist with the BBC goes undercover with the British National Party. Disturbing to say the least. And if you feel that some of the more egregious racists from the “Blogging Tories” and “Free Dominion” would be right at home with this lot, you’re probably not far off the mark.
Now, I did watch the video (linked below) and there were some extreme views expressed within. Wanting to see if these folks (the BNP) were "conservative" or not I checked out their policies:
IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!
On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question. We will abolish the ‘positive discrimination’ schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.
Immigration is something conservatives are concerned with but it's also something the lib-left is concerned with as well. In Russia, immigration is tightly controlled. Do you think China and North Vietnam let in every Tom, Dick and Harry that shows up at the gate? How about Mexico? Mexico's policies re immigration are outright totalitarian compared to the rest of North America.
Conclusion: Red Tory can not claim that North American conservatives are like the BNP based solely on this policy. Current tally: lib-left = 1 similarity, conservatives = 1 similarity.
EUROPE - back to British independence!
We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain’s family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.
Pure protectionism. This isn't a "conservative" trait, it's a lib-left trait. Don't believe me? Do a quick search on the term "no deep integration". Of the 1.2 million items returned, you'll be able to count the "conservative" postings on one hand. All the rest? Well, those are folks like the NDP, thetyee, pogge, breadnroses, blogscanada, and rabble.ca.
Conclusion: The BNP matches the position of the lib-left on this one. Current tally: lib-left = 2 similarities, conservatives = 1 similarity.
LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!
The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the ‘rights’ of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.
Hmmmm... Conservatives want to get tough on crime but, then again, so do the socialists. It's a bi-partisan issue. I have to admit though that the conservatives don't want to impose the death penalty on folks like the Chinese seem egar to do...
Conclusion: Red Tory cannot claim that crime control is a conservative trait. The lib-left owns it too. Current tally: lib-left = 3 similarities, conservatives = 2 similarities.
ECONOMY - British workers first!
Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour’s statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes
Wow... That one's loaded! More protectionism; Restricting imports... it all belongs to "the people"... preferential job treatment... the "damaging monopolies"... labour needs more money...
I count at least 5 new, distinct, lib-left policies in that one.
Conclusion: This isn't lookin' good for Red Tory. Current tally: lib-left = 8 similarities, conservatives = 2 similarities.
EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!
We are against the ‘trendy’ teaching methods that have made Britain one of the most poorly educated nations in Europe. We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom, give authority back to teachers and put far greater emphasis on training young people in the industrial and technological skills necessary in the modern world. We will also seek to instill in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain.
That one's conservative all the way.
Conclusion: Conservatives aren't ashamed of holding such a policy. Current tally: lib-left = 8 similarities, conservatives = 3 similarities.
AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!
We see a strong, healthy agriculture sector as vital to the country. Britain’s farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation’s need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming. We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain’s once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.
Government imposed organic farming. Tell me that one's not a "progressive" concept!
Conclusion: This one makes up for the loss on education above. Current tally: lib-left = 9 similarities, conservatives = 3 similarities.
HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!
We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens. We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention - low pay. We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.
Oh my... "free, fully funded National Health Service"... the workers need more money... Looks like a double whammy on that one! Actually, check that, we addressed worker pay above so it's just a single whammy...
Conclusion: The BNP is stealing their policies right out of the NDP and Liberal policy books. Current tally: lib-left = 10 similarities, conservatives = 3 similarities.
TRANSPORT - time to invest!
Increased investment is needed in Britain’s public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars. The first step is to end the crime and squalor that puts so many people off public transport. Motorists must not be made the scapegoats for government failure. Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned. Far more must be done to encourage the development and use of cleaner fuels.
Public transport... Isn't that a progressive sacred cow? Yup, that's what I thought... Oh, wait a second... they mentioned lower taxes at the end... It's a wash
Conclusion: Red Tory needs to start checking the score. Current tally: lib-left = 11 similarities, conservatives = 4 similarities.
ENVIRONMENT - a cleaner, greener future!
Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms. We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage. “The polluter pays to clean up the mess” must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architecture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and ensure that developments take place on a more human scale.
Is David Suzuki writing their policies? No, I mean it. Because it really looks like a policy Suzuki would have written. If an individual steps on a flower in the woods there'll be government enforced consequences? Are there going to be "flower police"?
Conclusion: lib-left. Current tally: lib-left = 12 similarities, conservatives = 4 similarities.
FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!
We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid. We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning. The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.
This one's bi-partisan I think.
Conclusion: Everybody scores a point. Current tally: lib-left = 13 similarities, conservatives = 5 similarities.
PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!
The conditions in which many of Britain’s old people are forced to live are a national disgrace. We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions. Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care.
This one was almost a conservative trait but for the whole overriding theme of "cradle to grave" nannyism...
Conclusion: lib-left. Current tally: lib-left = 14 similarities, conservatives = 5 similarities.
NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!
Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism - from whatever side - once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.
At first blush this one seems irrelevant but we do have that whole Quebec issue... For the most part conservatives want to kick the bastards out while it's the lib-left that'll do everything in their power to keep them in. AdScam anyone?
Conclusion: lib-left. Current tally: lib-left = 15 similarities, conservatives = 5 similarities.
DEFENCE - no more cuts!
Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain’s armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain’s armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence. We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete. We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling ‘peace-keeping’ missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake - a position of armed neutrality. We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.
The "no more cuts" part is conservative but the rest is lib-left.
Conclusion: Everybody scores points again. Current tally: lib-left = 16 similarities, conservatives = 6 similarities.
FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain’s interests first!
Britain’s foreign relations should be determined by the protection of our own national interest and not by our like or dislike of other nations’ internal politics. We would have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten British interests. We will maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the ‘international community’, or any other country.
Well... That looks like it was written by 'ol "Taliban Jack" himself...
Conclusion: lib-left. Current tally: lib-left = 17 similarities, conservatives = 6 similarities.
DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!
The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct ‘elite’ which thinks it knows best. On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues. The BNP exists to give the British people, that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level.
Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.
The first paragraph looks like a stump speech but the second is decidedly conservative.
Conclusion: conservative. Current tally: lib-left = 17 similarities, conservatives = 7 similarities.
Wow... Look at that... Canada's lib-left matched 17 of the BNP's policies while conservatives matched only 7... I guess Red Tory should really be pointing at his comrades when he discusses who would be more "right at home" with that "lot"...
Now, I'm sure that the moonbats are going to whine and cry and say that conservatives are racist and that the BNP is racist and that they're both the same because of it. They'd be lying. You see, it's not the conservatives who are racist, it's the lib-left. I can prove it by asking a few simple * questions * :
Q: Which US President forced the Civil Rights Act through the house and senate and what party was he with?
A: LBJ, Democrat
Q: Which party voted overwhelmingly in favor of the bill?
A: Republican
Q: Which party tried to stall the bill through committies and filibuster?
A: Democratic
final question...
Q: Which current sitting Senator once led his local chapter of the KKK and what party is he with?
A: Robert Byrd, Democrat
Yes Virginia, there are fascists among us but it's not the conservatives. It's people like Red Tory...