Comments for An Exercise In Futility at http://www.no-libs.com , comment 0 to 15 out of 15 comments http://www.no-libs.com Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:59:04 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_338 I am a leftie, and this ethanol shit still doesn't make sense to me. We need to deal with pricing/availability issues at the same time as environmental concerns, not just focus on one area and leave the rest. Also, this increases the price of food, which makes no sense whatsoever... starving and impoverished people at the cost of some minor environmental solution that really solves nothing. Great. (I'm a leftie, but I obviously don't vote Green). - Morglor9 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:05:20 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_143 "There is an excellent movie out- "An inconvenient truth," featuring Nobel Laureate Al Gore. You should watch it and learn. Time is running out!" Gore's movie is based on lies: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/10/09/court-identifies-eleven-inaccuracies-al-gore-s-inconvenient-truth[s][/s] Why should the general public accept it as truth??? - Richard Evans Tue, 06 May 2008 21:59:05 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_142 Thanks TG. Yes fuel and fertilizer companies are the biggest benificeries of the commodity spike but the iron (machinery) companies are doing well to as there has been a pent up demand to replace old equipment and to modernize. I have always wondered why it is that here, where I live, a few miles from potash mines...I could never afford to buy it and put it on my potashed starved land yet the Chinese could afford to buy it half way around the world!! Transportation curbs my desire to go places yet we ship dead weight in the form of fertilizer to our competitors over seas!!?? - ivbinconned Tue, 06 May 2008 17:28:05 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_141 There is an excellent movie out- "An inconvenient truth," featuring Nobel Laureate Al Gore. You should watch it and learn. Time is running out! - Mystery Meat Tue, 06 May 2008 16:31:15 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_140 "You are committing a hate crime." I try to do 3 slurs that might expose lefties to ridicule and violence before breakfast. :o As for these polar bears I'm totally willing to help them out, I'm willing to cull activists to feed them. Hell I'd even be willing to have AGW activists go extinct feeding them! http://marginalizedactiondinosaur.net/wordp/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/polar_bear_kills_seal.jpg [quote] "So kinsella will call me a hater or a neo Nazi but meanwhile the left are hoping to starve the third world, but thats tolerance." Doesn't make much sense does it?[/quote] nope - Dinosaur Tue, 06 May 2008 08:26:37 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_138 Ivbinconned, [great handle], Thanks for the valued feedback. Excellent point you make there. Curious . . Are gas/diesel and fertilizer/feeds your biggest cost jump of late? Wish I bought Sask Potash shares two years ago. TSX symb. [POT]. . . nothing to do with marijuana by the way. . [for over eager potheads.] = TG - TG Tue, 06 May 2008 07:20:58 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_137 Boy, this is really an anti-polar bear site. Someone should notify the Canadian Human Rights Commission. You are committing a hate crime. >:( - Mystery Meat Tue, 06 May 2008 06:38:55 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_136 Burning ethanol produces CO2, also. (Duh!) Just not as much as burning gasoline. Anyone got any numbers on that? - Eric Tue, 06 May 2008 06:33:15 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_135 All valid comments, but one thing seems to me is always overlooked. We...I mean, me too, have never tapped the full productive capacity of my farm. If I can sell what I produce for much higher prices I in-turn will make my farm much more productive and so will thousands. This will in-turn impact prices for everything but will also put downward pressure on commodities. But the spike in grain prices has to happen first!! - ivbinconned Tue, 06 May 2008 06:31:10 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_134 financial problems. - j morrison Tue, 06 May 2008 05:01:27 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_133 wlmr. they are not conservatives, never were. this agw crap will continue to wring us dry. this will not change until those at the top experience this same financial as the rest of us. breaucrats are insulated for the shocks most of us have to endure. - j morrison Tue, 06 May 2008 05:00:48 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_132 We discussed this twice in the past weeks at the Broom : http://tinyurl.com/6jjztl I was disappointed enough at the CPC supporting Kyoto economics and UN agenda 21 sustainability BS with this ethanol mandate, but what really struck me was the number of so-called conservatives that defend this shit. Economically it's pure soviet klap trap, part of the command economics of collectivist statism. From a perspective of national self sufficiency and agri economics it shits in the face of Laissez Faire Capitalism and free market dynamic as well as makes a disastrous ordered shift in reallocation of feed grains away from food production....what I found amazing is how many so called Conservatives defended these Marxist Collectivist ideas of supply control, command economics and demand destruction...pure market meddling by the feds and a show of distrust in the demand market. I have to wonder if partisan conservatives get their economics from a Keynesian textbook instead of the entrepreneur experience. This makes 3 bills that have favored Liberal/collectivist idealsim over the ideals of the conservative core...the othere;s being bill 51 and the disasterous bill C-21. What has happened to the CPC? Are they just Liberal light? - WL Mackenzie Redux Tue, 06 May 2008 04:40:09 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_131 You missed the point. Nobody really cares about all that emissions crap. The corn juice thing makes the farmers happy,..[votes], makes the petrol engine makers happy...[GM/Ford/Chry.], and more votes. Even Exxon/Mobile Chevron and Shell [lobby] are happy. [ethanol is their additive]. It only pisses off the electric vehicle and battery pack makers..and me, [very few votes]. High Food prices are due to Sask. Potash up 400% to farmers here, India and China and the high cost of gas and diesel farmers must burn every day. Agreed. Nothing about music smasher WK makes much sense. = TG PS: Mexico is cutting way back on oil delivery to the USA. Norway has lots of oil, but they use little, preferring to sell it instead. Time to invest in their electric *Think car* and currency. Dump American dollars. 8) - TG Mon, 05 May 2008 23:21:31 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_130 "So kinsella will call me a hater or a neo Nazi but meanwhile the left are hoping to starve the third world, but thats tolerance." Doesn't make much sense does it? - Richard Evans Mon, 05 May 2008 20:45:40 +0100 http://www.no-libs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12835&Itemid=9#pc_129 So kinsella will call me a hater or a neo Nazi but meanwhile the left are hoping to starve the third world, but thats tolerance. :'( "Maybe we should be spending those billions of dollars on trying to plug the volcanos instead..." We could get leftie volunteers to save the earth and fly them over in choppers and they could jump into it, to save the earth. - Dinosaur Mon, 05 May 2008 19:21:32 +0100